Number of posts : 254 Home City : Maidenhead, UK Model and year : 1993 Toyota Hiace Super GL 2.8 Litre with selectable 4WD Registration date : 2012-05-09
Subject: Gross vehicle weight - any ideas? Thu Mar 30, 2017 1:01 pm
Afternoon All,
Any idea what the Gross vehicle weight of my SuperGL would be? It's the 2.8litre diesel.
A local bridge only allows up to 3T and they're doing checks. Can't find anything on the plate, and also don't know what my towing limit is either.
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Rich
GPW Hiace Master
Number of posts : 1527 Home City : Cambridge, UK Model and year : Model: KD-KZH100G-MRPGT
Year: 1996
Colour: 4K1
Trim: FN42
Registration date : 2016-07-16
Subject: Re: Gross vehicle weight - any ideas? Thu Mar 30, 2017 2:44 pm
My SC is specified as 1050kg front, 850kg rear.
Hiace4wd Hiace Master
Number of posts : 796 Home City : Netherlands Model and year : 1994 Toyota Hiace 4x4 DIY camper Registration date : 2016-02-01
Subject: Re: Gross vehicle weight - any ideas? Thu Mar 30, 2017 3:19 pm
Gross weight is the total maximum allowed weight right? That is just under the 3 ton. It should be on the plate next to the engine, above the left front wheel when you lift the bonnet.
Mine says 2900kg and 4900kg with trailer.
But yours will be less than 3 ton anyway right so what is the issue with the bridge? If you have 4wd and camper interior it is probably something like 2200kg without people?
Hiace4wd Hiace Master
Number of posts : 796 Home City : Netherlands Model and year : 1994 Toyota Hiace 4x4 DIY camper Registration date : 2016-02-01
Subject: Re: Gross vehicle weight - any ideas? Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:31 pm
I think you have almost the same car as me, just a slightly bigger engine (but same family) So you must have a LH119 chassis.
This is an example of the plate, and I would really think you would have the same maximum allowed weight of 2900kg. Numbers 1 (front) and 2 (rear) show the maximum allowed weight per axle. The 4900kg is the towing weight, but I guess this may depend on the fitted pulling hitch frame?
I think your model code will be very similar, just that it will say LH119R or something.
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TwentyOneThirtyFive Been here a while
Number of posts : 222 Home City : Hertfordshire, UK Model and year : Super GL Camper (Vantech), 2.8D 4wd, 1995 Registration date : 2016-08-04
Subject: Re: Gross vehicle weight - any ideas? Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:32 pm
GVW isn't listed on the plate (and therefore V5 documents) for Japanese imports. Obviously not something considered important in Japan!
Marlow bridge? I saw it on the news the other day. Used to cross that on the way to the Scout centre (Longridge?) just down from there when I was a kid
Hiace4wd Hiace Master
Number of posts : 796 Home City : Netherlands Model and year : 1994 Toyota Hiace 4x4 DIY camper Registration date : 2016-02-01
Subject: Re: Gross vehicle weight - any ideas? Thu Mar 30, 2017 4:34 pm
Ok. So if it is not on the plate, then I think it is safe to take this as a guidance.
Anyhow, I think it should be clear that the car does not weigh more than 3 ton so it can go onto the bridge?
toldsimply Been here a while
Number of posts : 254 Home City : Maidenhead, UK Model and year : 1993 Toyota Hiace Super GL 2.8 Litre with selectable 4WD Registration date : 2012-05-09
Subject: Re: Gross vehicle weight - any ideas? Fri Mar 31, 2017 8:36 am
Thanks everyone. I'll have another look at the plate and see if it does have the weights written on it and I just wasn't paying attention. Glad I'm less than 3 tonnes, although going up hills I'd swear I was heavier!
Yes, Marlow bridge was on the news as a 37 tonne lorry decided to go over it (despite pinch points deliberately set up to stop it) and it was shut for a couple of months as a result. They're cracking down on people going over the bridge so modern range rovers are officially too heavy to go over. They're also too wide to go through the pinch points so it's slow going if you get stuck behind one /
Longridge canoe centre is still there. I used to go there as a lad too.
Hiace4wd Hiace Master
Number of posts : 796 Home City : Netherlands Model and year : 1994 Toyota Hiace 4x4 DIY camper Registration date : 2016-02-01
Subject: Re: Gross vehicle weight - any ideas? Fri Mar 31, 2017 10:36 am
Well, it could still be that you have overloaded the vehicle
toldsimply Been here a while
Number of posts : 254 Home City : Maidenhead, UK Model and year : 1993 Toyota Hiace Super GL 2.8 Litre with selectable 4WD Registration date : 2012-05-09
But that would be quite noticable. The van still drives okay at 3 tons, but will feel very sluggish. At least that's what we had when I completely loaded the van once, completely full.
Pete_nz Been here a while
Number of posts : 267 Home City : Wellington, New Zealand Model and year : '95 4WD Auto 3.0TD TripleMoonRoof Registration date : 2010-02-27
Subject: Re: Gross vehicle weight - any ideas? Fri Dec 28, 2018 9:54 pm
This web site lists all the relevant specs of the Super Customs broken down by specific model and specification not just generic. It gives the curb (kerb) weight. It also gives all the options, paint colours, tyre sizes etc etc. Great site for getting spec on Japanese domestic market cars in general.
Eg. My 1995 KZH-106W-MRPGT with it's glass triple moon roofs, auto gearbox & 4WD is 2060kg (4542lb)
http://www.cars-directory.net/specs/toyota/hiace/
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Pete_nz Been here a while
Number of posts : 267 Home City : Wellington, New Zealand Model and year : '95 4WD Auto 3.0TD TripleMoonRoof Registration date : 2010-02-27
Subject: Re: Gross vehicle weight - any ideas? Fri Dec 28, 2018 10:03 pm
Btw I was told the braked towing capacity of these maxes out at 1,500kg. This is from a very experienced tow bar specialist installer and manufacturer here in NZ where we see many many of these vans and probably as great a range of Japanese domestic market used vehicles as any other country. The businesses over here generally know their shit.
I had installed a 2500kg bar but he said he could not "sticker it" to more than 1500kg (3,300lb)
That said, I regularly tow a 1.2ton excavator on a 0.7 ton trailer with mine and also know lots of guys who tow race & drift cars with them. It is asking a lot of the van chassis and coil spring rear but they seem to cope just fine.