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Shandyout
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PostSubject: Can you help with 2wd Hiace Super Long custom wheel sizing?   Can you help with 2wd Hiace Super Long custom wheel sizing? Icon_minitimeFri Mar 22, 2013 2:20 pm

Hi Guys,

I'm looking for a set of 2nd hand wheels for my 2wd camper convented super long custom hiace. I've had a good look around the site but have come back a little confused...

I know the pcd is 114 but can anyone tell me the centerbore?

Can anyone advise the max and min offsets I've red 35is about right - does this depend on the width of the wheel - and also how does this relate to width do wider wheels/tyres need a lower offset?

What load rating would the tyres need to be, and what load do the wheels need to be able to take - do most car wheels meet this level?

Also I'm looking to up the gearing for better cruzing and fuel economy at the cost of acceleration, would a 10% increase in distance per revolution fit, and would this be a step to far?

Thanks in advance
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Load 95 or better with wheels to match. No a lot of alloy wheels can take the rotational torque of monster engines, however not the towering heavy bodied sideways G force of a Hiace!
Wheel size no idea.
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Clive wrote:
Load 95 or better with wheels to match. No a lot of alloy wheels can take the rotational torque of monster engines, however not the towering heavy bodied sideways G force of a Hiace!
Wheel size no idea.

Thanks I was suspecting that I would need a higher rating than that which opens up options.
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Shandyout wrote:
Clive wrote:
Load 95 or better with wheels to match. No a lot of alloy wheels can take the rotational torque of monster engines, however not the towering heavy bodied sideways G force of a Hiace!
Wheel size no idea.

Thanks I was suspecting that I would need a higher rating than that which opens up options.

Check if you have a door-plate or any docs which give tyre ratings.
Personally, I would go for a higher rating, though my HiAce lists Commercial Load range D (104/106) as the right rating on the drivers door jamb.

In my experience having good tyres makes a big difference to a van's ride & handling- even within tyres that are nominally the same spec: I currently have Kumho Winter tyres on my camper and they are quite significantly less stable than the Michelin Agilis I took off in the Autumn. I'm looking forward to the weather warming up so I can swap back!

Have a read through this thread for more: Suspension_tyres

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Hi,
Do HiLux wheels bolt up? i believe the diffs are the same and the hubs certainly look very similar!

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Hi, I plan to fit better tyres though need to sort the wheels to fit them too first!.

All the hilux wheels i've seen are Six stud - where as I need 5 stud
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I know that 14'' hiace wheel will not fit due to the Diesel having a larger brake calliper at the front.
I know that (AU falcon series 1 ) rims wil fit and have the correct offset, the only difference is the centre black platic cap mount. I just went through the tyre configeration for a RWC in Victoria. The load rating must comply with tyre placard on vehicle bfore they would issue a RWC dont know what rules apply where you are. Tyres from memory were 205 /75 / R15
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PostSubject: Re: Can you help with 2wd Hiace Super Long custom wheel sizing?   Can you help with 2wd Hiace Super Long custom wheel sizing? Icon_minitimeMon Mar 25, 2013 9:19 am

Shandyout wrote:
Hi, I plan to fit better tyres though need to sort the wheels to fit them too first!.

All the hilux wheels i've seen are Six stud - where as I need 5 stud

Ah! Sorry- you must have a newer van than me.. Mine are six-stud.

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I think 5 stud RWD 6 stud 4WD
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Clive wrote:
I think 5 stud RWD 6 stud 4WD

I think this correct to.

Im still looking for any advice if anyone has alloys on a 2wd id be keen to know what size and offset they are
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Yes 2wd run 5 stud , 5 x 114.3 stud pattern. I run Lexus 18" mags on mine but the centres have to be bored and they are not a perfect offset. You can use most larger Toyota saloons, RWD of course, Hilux earlier models and American Ford, older style. Offset is I believe arouind 35mm.
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WERX wrote:
Yes 2wd run 5 stud , 5 x 114.3 stud pattern. I run Lexus 18" mags on mine but the centres have to be bored and they are not a perfect offset. You can use most larger Toyota saloons, RWD of course, Hilux earlier models and American Ford, older style. Offset is I believe arouind 35mm.

Sounds promising, what size center bore do we need?
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Best if you run your tape measure across your centres of your existing wheels, just in case there is a difference.
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WERX wrote:
Best if you run your tape measure across your centres of your existing wheels, just in case there is a difference.
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Rex

That's a good idea- do it the old fashioned way and work it out for my self instead of asking on the forum!

Nb my van is currently having a re-conditioned 1kz-te engine installed inplace of the knackered 3l so im looking to up the wheel size and use the torque to improve the cruzing speed by lengthening the ridiculously short gearing. I figure a 15-20% increase in circumference would make a world of difference.
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