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JT69
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JT69


Number of posts : 413
Home City : Holmfirth Huddersfield Yorks
Model and year : 1996 3ltr turbo LWB super custom sat nav cruise fitted
Now running on veg oil
Registration date : 2016-12-05

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PostSubject: Soft Brakes    Soft  Brakes  Icon_minitimeTue Mar 06, 2018 8:33 am

My brake peddle is extremely soft have bled brakes with several ltrs of new fluid fitted new master cylinder and been through MOT without comment is a soft brake peddle normal on a Hiace super custom 3tlr .
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GPW
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Number of posts : 1527
Home City : Cambridge, UK
Model and year : Model: KD-KZH100G-MRPGT
Year: 1996
Colour: 4K1
Trim: FN42

Registration date : 2016-07-16

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PostSubject: Re: Soft Brakes    Soft  Brakes  Icon_minitimeTue Mar 06, 2018 4:54 pm

Are they soft with the engine off? (indicates more of an issue).

You may also wish to replace the flexible hoses too, they can get too flexible sometimes.
Also consider checking that the rear drum shoes are adjusted correctly.
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JT69
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JT69


Number of posts : 413
Home City : Holmfirth Huddersfield Yorks
Model and year : 1996 3ltr turbo LWB super custom sat nav cruise fitted
Now running on veg oil
Registration date : 2016-12-05

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PostSubject: Re: Soft Brakes    Soft  Brakes  Icon_minitimeWed Mar 07, 2018 4:07 pm

Having difficulty finding brake hoses found part number no longer available through Toyota anyone found some lately.
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GPW
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Hiace Master
GPW


Number of posts : 1527
Home City : Cambridge, UK
Model and year : Model: KD-KZH100G-MRPGT
Year: 1996
Colour: 4K1
Trim: FN42

Registration date : 2016-07-16

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PostSubject: Re: Soft Brakes    Soft  Brakes  Icon_minitimeWed Mar 07, 2018 4:37 pm

You can import them direct from here, not tried myself though:
http://jp-carparts.com/toyota/partlist.php?maker=toyota&type=711140&cartype=136&fig=4708
I can see 6 different parts depending on date and a change in August 1996 which is interesting, so you'll need to know the exact date.

Might be cheaper to buy equivalents locally, there's not that many combinations of ends and lengths.
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JT69
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JT69


Number of posts : 413
Home City : Holmfirth Huddersfield Yorks
Model and year : 1996 3ltr turbo LWB super custom sat nav cruise fitted
Now running on veg oil
Registration date : 2016-12-05

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PostSubject: Re: Soft Brakes    Soft  Brakes  Icon_minitimeWed Mar 07, 2018 8:43 pm

Yes thats were I got the part numbers just need to cross reference with suppliers if ebay comes up with suppliers in Germany if anyone can supply in uk would be good thanks.
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GPW
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Hiace Master
GPW


Number of posts : 1527
Home City : Cambridge, UK
Model and year : Model: KD-KZH100G-MRPGT
Year: 1996
Colour: 4K1
Trim: FN42

Registration date : 2016-07-16

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PostSubject: Re: Soft Brakes    Soft  Brakes  Icon_minitimeWed Mar 07, 2018 9:20 pm

If you get stuck you can always make up a custom one, e.g:
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/AN-3-universal-brake-hose-2-x-straight-chrome-banjos-washers-1m-long-Venhill/201516327189

As yours is the 1996 year (with the same headlamp style as mine in fact!) you'll have to check the exact fittings as they seemed to have changed something mid year.

How are your headlights BTW? Mine of that style were a bit dim as the reflector was all matt so I've been spending ages fitting some similar shaped Transit Mk5 glass fronted lamps instead.
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JT69
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JT69


Number of posts : 413
Home City : Holmfirth Huddersfield Yorks
Model and year : 1996 3ltr turbo LWB super custom sat nav cruise fitted
Now running on veg oil
Registration date : 2016-12-05

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PostSubject: Re: Soft Brakes    Soft  Brakes  Icon_minitimeThu Mar 08, 2018 8:25 am

Thanks GPW the kit is an option done that before on a kit car however found these on ebay https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Toyota-Hiace-III-Front-Brake-Hose-Right-9094702C04/142019317650?hash=item211102cf92:g:YPIAAOSwxbtZmqx- will look under my sc as soon as it stops snowing they are worth a try at that price should also be able to find rear one thanks again
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GPW
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Hiace Master
GPW


Number of posts : 1527
Home City : Cambridge, UK
Model and year : Model: KD-KZH100G-MRPGT
Year: 1996
Colour: 4K1
Trim: FN42

Registration date : 2016-07-16

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PostSubject: Re: Soft Brakes    Soft  Brakes  Icon_minitimeThu Mar 08, 2018 9:57 am

Great stuff, good to know they are a) made and b) reasonable prices.

Interesting the Yaris also still uses the banjo bolt, I haven't seen that on other cars I've worked on (Honda, BMW, MG, Peugeot).

Good idea to do the rear one at the same time too.

Do you use two people for bleeding? Some of the clip-on valve-drain pipes suck back air when you release the pedal.
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JT69
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Number of posts : 413
Home City : Holmfirth Huddersfield Yorks
Model and year : 1996 3ltr turbo LWB super custom sat nav cruise fitted
Now running on veg oil
Registration date : 2016-12-05

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PostSubject: Re: Soft Brakes    Soft  Brakes  Icon_minitimeThu Mar 08, 2018 10:43 am

Yes two man job with auto top up tank makes it easy.
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